Several people have emailed me privately about the veracity of Lisa & Erik’s claims, some even saying that they’re not as healthy as they make themselves out to be. I have combed through much of what Lisa & Erik have told me. Yes, they continue to insist that somewhere close to everyone has benefited from doing avoidance according to Erik’s protocol. There was one case I mentioned in my previous blog as the one anecdote that runs counter to this trend, and Lisa readily agreed with me about the lack of benefit (thus far) in this case. I don’t see a shred of dishonesty. Sure, when they talk about avoidance to a bunch of newbies in a post, the summary of anecdotes must come off like snake oil: after all, what other treatment in our community has exceeded even a 50% success rate (yes including Ampligen)? But when I dig deep & ask for details, the details they’ve given me have been most consistent with what I hear from the source. From what I can see, Lisa has eagerly welcomed scientific skepticism of her “theory” on the forums. Additionally, I’ve seen Lisa in person and I can tell you: I would absolutely kill to be as functional as she is. From what I hear of Erik, yes his lifestyle must appear really odd to people not decontaminating in a big city, but he works a full-time job & can climb more mountains than your sherpa ancestors. So although I often disagree with their methods, I have no bone to pick with Lisa & Erik’s honesty. They are not omniscient of all facts in every anecdotes, and they’re clearly trying to tell a narrative about avoidance, but why do two very intelligent individuals (one that worked w/bioweapons, and another that has a PhD from Northwestern, both of whom could surely be generously financially rewarded doing something else) continue to tell this narrative for zero pay? Think about what they have to gain from lying. Please, just think about it. I think they press on because these anecdotes of sick patients hiking again are staring our community in the face and deserve a real research study. That’s the only logical reason I can come up with.
I think the point here is: does extreme avoidance benefit as much as it did for Erik? Is your expectation to climb Mt. Whitney? If so, extreme avoidance may have a 50/50 chance of being a great disappointment! But there are many out there whom disagree with Erik & Lisa (on several ends), yet readily admit to benefiting from mold avoidance. Paula Carnes writes on Jamie’s blog that mold avoidance is not a cure. Whoever said it was one? Whoever said Ampligen is a cure? But would you not jump to take ampligen if it cost the same as your nightly sleep medications?
I sure as hell can’t climb Mt. Whitney yet, and I sure as hell don’t want to tempt fate by doing so. Hell I celebrated climbing 1000 ft 4 months into extreme avoidance. But here’s the bottom line:
2010: Crashing from 10 standing pushups against a wall after $20,000 spent on an experimental treatment.
2012: Burning from 210 pushups
I’m far from healthy. I still have bad brain fog & debilitating gut issues, and you may say “HA! gotcha!” But if I were still me in 2010 and I knew that doing this would lead to 2012 me, I would simply say, “feel free to focus on the details while I start getting ripped.”